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  • pmlarsonmiller

    During our tour at Angola: 
    Student: So are there options for people who do not prescribe to the Christian faith? 
    Tour-guide: What, you mean devil-worshipers? 
    Student: NO, I mean Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, etc. 
    Tour-guide: Oh, yeah. Mostly it’s Christianity, but there are things for them, too. 
     
    YEAH RIGHT. This experience was a direct example of how hostile the prison system is to those who do not fall in with the Evangelical Christian crowd. And when we talked to Shaq, and inmate at Angola, he said that there are not written or outlined punishments for not following Warden Cain’s faith, but there are most definitely drawbacks. You can really only “get ahead” (i say that with severe reservations, but i’ll proceed) if you ask for forgiveness from Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. You can get even farther if you start preaching.
     
    This tactic of social control is deplorable. It excludes, exploits, and poses a threat to many inmates. Are you Queer and sentenced to serve time? Well get ready, because its going to be a shit-storm. Are you Atheist? Muslim? Buddhist? Sikh? Jewish? Other? You are also screwed.
     
    Aren’t we supposed to be secular? Not so much. Our AMERICAN criminal justice system is overtly and overwhelmingly CHRISTIAN.
     
    Gross. That’s all I have to say.   

    •  @pmlarsonmiller yes that was a disturbing exchange — to say the least
       
      agree agree agree paula

  • KayWhitlock

    Wishing everyone a lovely evening and sweet dreams.  Must sign off now.

  • Outstanding work Kay! A highly resourceful piece.  Will share with some reentry folks/groups.

    • KayWhitlock

       @Seeta Thanks, Seeta.  Love your post earlier today on the Presidential endorsement!  You, and CMP, are blessings.

  • PatriciaLevesque

    This article really managed to hit several of my buttons, pardons for the rant;
     
    There is a real problem in this country with many christians believing that the first amendment pertains only to themselves (do you think “tebowing” would have been so popular had he been Muslim?), and when political candidates run on a platform of “bringing god back into the White-house” you have to ask which god? (I’m pretty sure Santorum isn’t concerned with the Torah)
     
    This is yet another attempt of the white/male/christian to control the minds and bodies of Americans.  They have been doing this to the female population through legislation (435 bills in state legislatures in the last two years to control a woman’s right to make well informed personal decisions about her body), they have successfully to this point controlled the LGBT community through slander in the court of public opinion feeding on fear and ignorance (and, hey, it’s still working well in some places; NC anyone?).  And now we’re seeing how they’ve been doing it to a truly captive audience in the prison system.
     
    While I personally am an antithiest (often confused with atheists), I can understand how someone with little else to turn to can find great comfort in a personal belief in god.  But when you’r controlling a populations life it is simply disgusting to use this faith as yet another leash to exert pressure.  When you add how the system continues to control and deny former inmates after release I consider it criminal.  As we all know former convicts are legally trapped in a very real catch 22 after release.  There is limited housing options, they have often lost their family support system, employers can legally discriminate them.  To then use their faith to preach humility and submission (as only the “good” book can) is no more than an attempt to keep them complacent in their current circumstances.  
     
    This nation was founded by men who were mostly Deists, they clearly intended that there be a firm separation of church and state.  This should include the prison system, if inmates want a church organisation then it should by all means be available to them as their right.  It should not be run for them.  
     
    Rick Perry said when he was running for President that “freedom of religion did not mean freedom from religion”.  (and obviously that pertains to christianity)  To be blunt, that should scare anyone who really believes this is a free country.  Similarly, this attempt to control the prison population through the bible is equally frightening.
     
    OK, rant off.  Sigh
     
     

    • KayWhitlock

       @PatriciaLevesque Great rant, Patricia.  I’m going to read it again!
       
      So right about the “whose God?” question.  One of the most disturbing things about right-wing Christianity is that, even though it devalues Judaism, it supports current Israeli government policies concerning settlements in the Occupied Territories.  Thus, right-wing Christians become a valued ally of the Israeli government.  But that right-wing Christian support is also predicated on a belief in Armageddon – and so conflagration in the Middle East is seen as hastening the showdown between Christ and anti-Christ.
       
      It’s all horrific.

    •  @PatriciaLevesque Yes!
       
      you said it all – thanks Patricia

    • CarolynOlvera

      Thank you for saying all the things that I was having a hard time formulating!

  • JaimieBeavers

    I think it is very narrow minded and almost upsetting that in the 21st century so many people are acting like Christianity is the only religion and if you believer anything else then you are not worthy or not as good as those who are Christians. As we learned in my American Criminal Justice class, people who are interested in becoming ministers or who are really interested in doing ministry work are treated better and often paid better if they are ministers inside the prisons. This is not a step in the right direction but rather a step back. People should not be punished, which is ultimately what is happening, for not associating with Christianity.

    • KayWhitlock

       @JaimieBeavers And not just “Christianity,” but a particular brand of right-wing, conservative, anti-LGBT Christianity.  There are lots of progressive Christians trying to change this, who also support religious freedom for prisoners of other faiths and forms.

      • PatriciaLevesque

         @KayWhitlock  @JaimieBeavers And these organizations that are Christ-Like as well as Christian encourage people to get up and do something to better themselves.  They encourage, support and mentor people who want to go to school, learn a skill or simply find good work that can honestly support an individual.  Then they encourage those people to help, encourage and mentor others as they can.  The types of christian organizations you see in the article above (or railing away in right wing campaign ads) seek actively to “teach” people to accept their place in life, to be thankful for whats been “given” to them by thee system.  It’s not raising people up, but seeking to keep them in their place.

        • KayWhitlock

           @PatriciaLevesque  @JaimieBeavers Ummm… “amen.” 

    •  @JaimieBeavers yes — those who cling so fervently to the First Amendment — steadily deny it to others

  • CarolynOlvera

    How is it possible that in this day and age we can have a prison that is christian based only and where people who are christian succeed and thrive while people who are any other religion are ostracized and considered sub human. and not allowed to practice their religions.

    •  @CarolynOlvera good ???s…
       
      part of the answer is $$ and political power

    • KayWhitlock

       @CarolynOlvera It has always been thus.  But now, it’s much more profitable.  No shift in power relationships over centuries.
       
      Thanks for being here, CarolynOlvera.

      • CarolynOlvera

        when we think about the power plays that happen in the world we are still stuck in a day and age where money makes all the difference and we cant have freedom of religion

        • KayWhitlock

           @CarolynOlvera For the moment.  But for the moment, only!

  • KayWhitlock

    Good evening, all!  I know this is a l-o-nnnn-g post.  But I hope you will find it worth your while.
     
    In the meantime, here in Montana, the sun is shining, there’s a gentle breeze, and we’re providing bowls of water and support to a crow with a broken wing who has taken refuge in our yard.

    •  @KayWhitlock all good thoughts for that crow

      • KayWhitlock

         @nancy a heitzeg Yesterday and the day before that, that crow was attacked by other crows; I could see it from my home office window, so I ran out and ran off the other crows.  But our guy or gal is intrepid; she (I’m going to assume it’s a she) ambles quickly around the yard, finding lots to eat, and can hop/flap onto lower branches of trees, and then on up.  She’s plucky and amazing, so all vibes coming her way are most welcome!

  • Thanks for this timely post Kay — we always need to take account of the power of the right’s seductive narratives on this one..
     
    recently the New York Times published a piece on ta Life of Jesus production at LSP Angola — http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/06/us/in-prison-play-with-trial-at-its-heart-resonates.html – again illustrating the coplexity of this issue..
     
    Sure it offers inmates opportunities that they would not otherwise have.. But when the only option for artistic or religious expression is a conservative evangelisc christian option — this remains a problem
     
     

    • KayWhitlock

       @nancy a heitzeg Agree, Nancy, and I hope readers go to that link.  It’s not the play I object to; it’s that it’s another play, one, say, about the assassinations of Fred Hampton and Mark Clark, or about Malcolm X – or even Dr. King – likely would never be permitted.

      •  @KayWhitlock Exactly..
         
        last visit to Angola, we heard a pretty unfiltered critique of Cain’s “use of religion and hope” from an inmate there — Sirvorius Sutton.. http://www.wehaitians.com/spinning%20hope%20on%20incarceration%20station.html
         
        Even though he works for the gospel radio station, he was quite vocal abot how religion was used as a mecanism of social control –much as it was during slavery..
         
        No surprise here – except that he said it. Which is probably why he is no longer officially on the list of inmate speakers.. We were lucky to have a tour guide who just called him in — because well, she has a critique of this herself and just can’t say it..
         
         

        • KayWhitlock

           @nancy a heitzeg Grimly fascinating that she has a critique, too, but must let somebody else offer it.  Kudos to him for speaking as plainly as possible.

        •  @KayWhitlock Isn’t it??
           
          She is a long term employee who says she is “doing a 30 year sentence”
           
          Yeah