• Louisiana workers’ compenstion lawyer

  • Steve born

    rfrg

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for this, DaNang65…. another learning experience for me.  You’d think that a nation that pays lip service to supporting its vets would put a little more time, money, and effort into helping them transition back to non-combat existence, and even more resources into helping those who show signs of PTSD.

    I’m often in the area of the West LA VA Hospital where so many vets are  camping out next to the freeway off ramps, and wandering into Westwood, and over to Santa Monica, making comfortable people uncomfortable as they work their addiction/mental health issues out in public. They are only a confrontation (with the wrong civilian or law enforcement person) away from being locked up.

    … The Troy Davis death watch sickened me so much that I had to stay away from the internet last night, so, sorry to be getting here so late.

    (blindyone)

  • Thanks for the excellent article, DaNang.  Soldiers and their loved ones continue to pay the costs of war throughout their lifetimes and into the next generations.  After WWII the sheer political power of the enormous number of veterans forced the govt to enact the various GI bills.  During and after the Vietnam War era. veterans were so politically active that the government instituted VA programs to address PTSD and (at least in part) illness caused by Agent Orange.  But the “medicalization” of veterans’ political rage, combined with the right wing revision of the history of the Vietnam war, opened the door to a new politics of silencing the pro-veteran and anti-war movements by insisting that anything other than flag-waving didn’t “support the troops.”  Those of us working in the veterans community over the last 30 years have seen the increasing erosion of veterans’ services, often by changes in enlistment benefits and practices, so that soldiers aren’t even eligible for certain benefits in the first place, and others have been so degraded as to laughable (college funds, for example).

    Though I am grateful that fewer soldiers are at direct physical risk in today’s military, I have a strong sense of cynicism about that trend.  The soldiers we now see in the theaters of war are largely short-term enlistees who signed up because of lack of job alternatives. They come disproportionately from poor working class & minority neighborhoods.  During the first Gulf War, estimates suggested that as many as 40% of the women in the theater were African American. More women are currently serving in U.S. theaters of war than ever before.  90% of them report being sexually harassed and 1/3 report being raped, and yet support services for female soldiers and veterans are pathetically thin. Most short-term enlistees are dumped on the street after discharge, where they fill the homeless shelters — 1/3 of the population of America’s adult homeless.  Of those, about 56% are African American or Hispanic. Native Americans have always served disproportionately in the American military. All these populations are also massively over-represented in our nation’s prisons. Those who suffer from PTSD (which can spring from any sort of endured or witnessed violence, like combat or rape) display higher rates of substance abuse (the psychologists call this “self-medicating), and that makes it even likelier they’ll wind up in jail.  The current trend in the military is to make use of these “throwaway soldiers” and cast them off without recourse. So we fight our wars with fewer soldiers, but we penalize them in ways the nation couldn’t dream of getting away with if our soldiers were members primarily of the white, male mainstream as they were in the second half of the 20th Century.

    And mainstream, white America ignores them, as they ignore all of the atrocities hidden from their sight, congregating in their rigidly segregated neighborhoods, schools and workplaces.  The greatest thing we can do to honor veterans is to stop wars. And, in the meantime, we can fight for social services, free health care, and radical prison reform.

    • Princss6

      It seems to be the trend in the US, as integration increases in an institution, the institution becomes marginalized.  

  • Princss6

    Thank you, Danang.  The entire system is just so corrupt.  Thank you for bringing this important issue to my attention.  

  • Time of Troy Anthony Davis’ death 11:08 EDT.  Rest in peace, Troy. 

  • Kwhitlock

    11:08 Georgia time.

    Troy Davis is dead.

  • Anonymous

    we are watching a modern lynching take place on  live tv.  i am sickened.  husband and i are sitting here just beyond words. honestly, i am ever more convinced that if and when we have children, we will leave this country. i don’t want to raise my kids in this culture and i don’t want to live in fear that my black children will be swept up in this.

    • Kay W

      yes, mali muso.

      I wish I could argue with you.  I cannot.

      I can send love.

      This is agony and nightmare.  And it happens so often in this country.

      • Anonymous

        yes.  love to everyone who fights for justice. 

        as for the level of development in this country, let’s just say that i would feel safer raising my kids back in africa, in a so-called “3rd world” country.  we could learn some lessons about community and the greater good.

    • It is sickening beyond words mali muso.  I am appalled by the Supreme Court decision — no dissent, no rationale provided. 

      Barbarians, all of them. 

      The systems have failed. 

      • Anonymous

        it is abhorent. one can only hope that this will galvanize movement towards doing away with the death penalty.  how much clearer and obvious can it be that our system of “justice” has failed?

      • Kay W

        yes, seeta.  At this moment, the Court turns away in silence, without a single word, as if this means nothing.

        My anger is white hot tonight.

        • I am in tears.  An abdication of responsibility from the “highest” court.

          • Kwhitlock

            I wept earlier and will again.  Now, I feel I could tear whole cities apart.

    • yes — it is true

      thank you mali for being a witness

    • Anonymous

      And that is the crux of the matter, isn’t it.
      Every mother of a black son knows that the tight knot in the bottom of the stomach is nothing but  undiluted fear.
      Virginia Davis died with that fear.

      The absolute arrogance of the justices, the judges, the prosecutor.
      The indifference to the calls of the citizens ot this country.
      This is beyond sickening.

      • Kay W

        Yes.

  • Anonymous

    It is done.
    RIP Troy Davis.

    • Sick, absolutely sick.  The US is a barbaric country.

  • Kay W

    Nancy posted it earlier…and it needs to be posted again.

    The execution is now underway.

    Verdi Requiem – Toscanini: Dies irae

    Dies irae
    Tuba mirum
    Mors stupebit
    Liber scriptus

          ###

    a day of wrath
    The trumpet wonders
    Death shall be astonished
    it is written

    • Profoundly saddening Kay. 

      • Kay W

        there are moments when the heart is shattered and torn.

        too many of them in this country.

        tonight is one of those moments.

        I keep thinking of his words:  “I am Troy Davis, and I am free.”

  • Anonymous

    I just saw on the news tease that the Supreme Court refused to grant relief for Troy Davis. I am nauseated, as I know all of you are. The only thing that makes this bearable is knowing that there are people in this world like all of you with gentle hearts and hope for a better world. 

  • Kay W

    Does it seem to anyone else tonight like the treatment of our veterans and the treatment of Troy Davis and all others on death row are inextricably connected, part of the same web of violence, corruption, and hypocrisy?

    • Rap8643

      I was just feeling the same thing.  I work with vets and I work in NYC high schools in the black and latino community.  There is a lot of overlap.  Also, those among us who are already beat down and have trouble getting work are always used as the front line in war.  It’s a vicious cycle — unemployed, so you join the army, come back messed up and you’re unemployed again.  and when you run out of those options you end up in jail.

  • Supreme Court has refused to stay the execution as of 10:21 EDT.

    • Anonymous

      I wish I could click the “Like” button, but neither my heart nor my fingers will let me.

    • 30 minutes — they are gonna do it

      I figured — they are all set up and ready to roll..

       i will not type what i am thinking

      • Sickening…so absolutely sickening. 

        May he peacefully transition.

        ….and the struggle here continues.

        The US has shown its character — or lack thereof — tonight.

        There are many more Troy Davis’ and we need to prevent this from ever happening ever again.

        • Kay W

          It is the death penalty, period, that needs to go.

          Troy’s case points up the severest contradictions and hypocrisies and racism.

          But in all instances, the death penalty corrupts us as a nation and corrodes our souls. 

  • Anonymous

    Thank you for this enlightening piece.
    Our system is broken and dysfunctional.
    Heartbreaking to learn that the families of incarcerated veterans are made to suffer even after they have sacrified for their country.
     Truth be told, I had not even given a single thought to this injustice because I, like so many others,  had no idea that this was happening.
    Shame, shame, shame.

    Praying for Troy Davis.
    Praying that the supreme court justices will find some compassion, some empathy in hearts. That they will recover some of that idealism they must have had when they decided to study law.

    • It is wonderful to see you here JoanMar.  Many thanks to DaNang for  raising consciousness on these [generally ignored] issues tonight.  It is amazing that this country treats its veterans (and their families) in such a disposable and dispensable fashion.

      We are all keeping vigil for Troy Davis tonight and hoping for the best. 

      A lot of people are talking about Troy’s case tonight — and the death penalty — and the world is watching the US’s barbaric behavior in horror.

      • Anonymous

        Thank you, Seeta.
        My heart is breaking.

        • Mine too JoanMar.  A profoundly disturbing, deeply saddening night.

    • Amen JoanMar

      thank you for being here!

      • Anonymous

        Hi Nancy.

    • Kay W

      hey, JoanMar, it does my heart good to see you.

      Yes to everything.

      Much love to you.

      • Anonymous

        Much love to you, Kay.
        It hurts to even type right now.

  • Partriotdaily

    hope my comment posts. this is powerful, dynamite reporting. i taught cj courses at university while in law school. we focused in one course on the differentials between men and women at each stage of cj system (prosecution decision, sentencing etc.) and studies at the time that showed the involved actors actually treated women more harshly because of the sexist attitude of women being better than men and also the parens patraie attitude of state as parent for women. at the time, people said the same thing was happening with vets, that they were getting harsher treatment because of the view of “criminal” vets being so afar from “patriotic soldiers.” 

    how long does it take before things change? that was 25 years ago.

    • Kay W

      Your comment posted!  Good to see you, Patriotdaily. 

      How long does it take?

      The time it takes for change depends on us.

      • Patriotdaily

        hi, good to see you! 

        yes, change depends on us. but how many issues does the public support with us, high numbers of support, not just majority support, yet congress does squat? i wish i could just zap current lawmakers out and replace with good people. :)

        • Kay W

          Understand.

          I think the criminal legal stuff is actually quite hard – and that ending “get tough” – which embraces everything from the death penalty to mandatory minimums to torture and extended solitary confinement – is a very rough struggle.

          My experience is that many, even most, people support “get tough” because it has been sold as a proxy for racial/social/economic justice.

          We have to change the culture, not only the politicians.  And I am honored to be in the struggle with you! 

    • the old archetypes die so hard — yes 25 years and waiting

      i always hope that awareness can bring action.. we do what we can do

      thanks so much for being here — always great to see you PatriotDaily

      • Patriotdaily

        hi hon! oops, i see typos in my name.  yes, awareness is first step. and you hit home run tonight! i hope your story spreads far. :)

    • Anonymous

      On the subject of “criminal” vets being “patriotic soldiers” please see http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/3/31/852660/-Criminal-InJustice-Kos:-Incarcerated-Veterans

  • Verdi Requiem – Toscanini: Dies irae

    Dies irae
    Tuba mirum
    Mors stupebit
    Liber scriptus

          ###

    a day of wrath
    The trumpet wonders
    Death shall be astonished
    it is written

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDbMzp86tOc&feature=related

    • Kay W

      Thanks, Nancy.

      This says it all. 

  • Angie Drake

    Danang, you opened my eyes. I didn’t know that vet and their families lost compensation while the vet is in jail. That seems more than unfair to the family and especially unfair if the vet is unjustly arrested and jailed in the first place.

    • Kay W

      Yes – very unfair.  Thanks for being here, Angie Drake.

    • Anonymous

      Great to see you here tonight Angie!
      This seems like a good place to try and make a fairly obscure point about VA payments to veterans.
      There are two very distinct kinds of payments, compensation and pension.
      A veteran who suffered a disabling injury in the line of duty receives compensation, very similar to Social Security Disability, although the actual amount of the monthly check is determined by the percentage of disability the VA awards. On the sixty first day of felony incarceration the payments are reduced to 10% disabilty, no matter how grievous her injuries. It is the remaining disability compensation that may be “apportioned”, in whole or in part based on proven finacial need, to the vets dependents.

      There’s a second form of payment, called a pension, which guarantees that a veteran, disabled or not, receives the difference between whatever their income and the grand sum of$908 per month after medical expenses. On the sixty first day of felony incarceration the entire “pension” is forfeit unless and until release from the penal facility, no matter how many dependents go needy.

      • Hey DaNang — would you be interested in skyping in on a college class to talk about this piece?  I’ll send a private email  with details.

        • Anonymous

          I’ll be checking my inbox.

          • you better say YES!!! :)

          • Anonymous

            Among the things I’ve learned on this rocky road is when and how to follow Orders.
            Yes, Ma’am!

      • Kay W

        May be a “fairly obscure” point, DaNang, but incredibly important, and I was not aware of it until your post.

        Good lord.  “The entire ‘pension’ is forfeit” unless and unti.

        Mercilessly stacked deck.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks DaNang65!  Another eyeopening diary.

    Thanks to sooth, Radio Girl and seeta for Criminal Injustice.

    Praying for a miracle for Troy Davis.

    • thank you for being here ruby!

    • praying with you ruby!!

      thank you

    • Kay W

      Good to see you, Ruby.  I’m praying, too.

  • MK

    Just wanted to stop by to say that I look forward to reading this diary in depth tomorrow.  I am feeling such an overwhelming sense of anxiety tonight that I am having problems concentrating.  Seeta, thanks for providing this terrific space for Criminal Injustice.  So much gratitude.  I am fasting for Troy Davis tonight and lighting a candle for all of those who have been murdered by the State.  Peace to all.

  • From NY Brit Expat:

    the SCOTUS will make a decision on whether or not to offer a stay of execution anytime from tonight to 7 days from now according to the BBC and the Guardian:

     http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/22/troy-davis-execution-delayed

    (NY Brit Expat says hi.  She’s having trouble logging into to Disqus.  Apologies to those having loggin issues.  FYI:  Once you’ve clicked into a post, scroll down to comment section, click on “Disqus” icon, then login with a current social networking profile or create a new account.  From there you can upload an avatar, edit profile, etc.)

    • thank you seeta

      waving to NY brit expat :)

    • Kay W

      Thanks & good wishes to NY brit expat, who is a tireless opponent of the DP and who cares profoundly about criminal injustice issues.

  • Kay W

    The Nation on Troy Davis’ reprieve (reprieve is not a stay of execution):

    http://www.thenation.com/blog/163561/temporary-reprieve-troy-davis

    • i know this is not what people want to hear but i think the long time lag is designed to throw off supporters

      SCOTUS rarely rarely weighs in the right way on DP cases.. I doubt they will now

      i hope i am wrong

      • I am wary too Nancy…sigh…cautiously optimistic

      • Kay W

        I agree with you, Nancy.  We will likely hear a response from Scalia. 

      • Anonymous

        I’m reminded of the comment by the inestimable Mr. Dooley, in a very different kind of case that “I don’t know whether or not the Constitution follows the flag, but the Supreme Court follows the elections.

        That remark, made over a hundred years ago after the U.S. began its march to empire by annexing the Phillipines, is no less true today.

      • Nancy, you were right :(

  • Looks like Troy has received a “reprieve,” but not a stay.  Not confirmed yet.

  • Amazing story, I’m glad I was able to read it.

    • Hey David — great jamming with you last weekend.  Always wonderful to see you.

    • yet it is

      thanks so much for being here David

      so appreciated!

      • Anonymous

        Hey sooth!!
        Thanks for all of your hard work.

    • Kay W

      Hey, David, good to see you.

      DaNang’s article is so powerful. 

      • Anonymous

        Hey RG!! So powerful and revelatory!!

  • Anonymous

    Hi Emmet, good to see you again!
    Apportionment is a remarkably quiet as it’s kept process. If you can believe it the VA doesn’t even have a form for it.

    • Emmet

      Great to see you, too, and thanks again for that information.  Hope you’re doing well.

  • Anonymous

    Thanks, Nancy, your advice, as usual cut through the fog.

    I’m so sorry to be here tonight, at this hour, as Troy Davis has shaken off his mortal coil. It’s difficult to pay attention to much else right now.

    • thanks for this diary

      i am always grateful for all you do on behalf of veterans — incarcerated or not..

      this issue is so over-looked

      and yes the Troy Davis case weighs heavy on us all

    • Kay W

      Blessings to you, DaNang.

      Limitless prayers for Troy Davis.

      For those who refused to hear overwhelming evidence that he did not murder, I offer this word:

      Karma. 

    • there are more former soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen languishing
      in state and federal prisons than at any time previously. They are older
      than their prison fellows, and serving longer sentences, even for
      comparable crimes.

      These figures are staggering DaNang — incredible how we treat our veterans (and their families). 

      Thank you for bringing this issue to light.

      • Anonymous

        How did we end up with a society that does not honor its veterans, teachers, and firefighters? What a shame. 

        • Anonymous

          Freidrich Hayek, Milton Friedman, and some woman who wrote about “The Virtue of Selfishness.”

          • Kay W

            Dear, dear Ayn.

            The Hollow Woman. 

  • DaNang is on his way i believe — had some of the log-in troubles i did last week

    hopefully resolved soon

  • Anonymous

    Once again,well done.  Heartbreaking.

    • heart-breaking is indeed the word robinswing

      thank you for being here

  • Princss6

    listening to live broadcast…waiting to hear what happens…reprieve issued but no stay as of yet

  • Emmet

    Thank you for the diary, DaNang.  I didn’t know about the whole apportionment process.  I don’t think some of my clients did either. 

    • red tape mysteries abound

      thanks for being here emmet

    • Anonymous

      Please see the response to Angie Drake, above, for an important distinction.

  • Kay W

    Prayers and blessings for Troy Davis.

    We don’t want to shortcut discussion of DaNang’s diary, but we are also taking note of tonight’s execution of Troy Davis.

    Thanks to everyone who has called, signed petitions, sent emails, letters, and faxes on his behalf.

    seeta has a couple of other posts on Troy below DaNang’s post.

    This is a terrible and tragic miscarriage of justice.

    Let us mourn together tonight and reaffirm our struggle to abolish the damn death penalty. 

    • Agreed — powerful, DaNang, thank you for this informative, powerful piece.  Shared far and wide.

      RE: Troy Davis — Waiting to hear confirmation if there has been a stay of the execution. 

      •  saw there was a late appeal to SCOTUS

         

        • Kay W

          I Am Troy Davis, and I Am Free!

          Troy wrote this message, quoted in an earlier post on this blog, to his many supporters:
          It is because of all of you that I am alive today, as I look at my
          sister Martina I am marveled by the love she has for me and of course I
          worry about her and her health, but as she tells me she is the eldest
          and she will not back down from this fight to save my life and prove to
          the world that I am innocent of this terrible crime.

          “To All:

          I want to thank all of you for your efforts and dedication to Human
          Rights and Human Kindness, in the past year I have experienced such
          emotion, joy, sadness and never ending faith.

          As I look at my mail from across the globe, from places I have never
          ever dreamed I would know about and people speaking languages and
          expressing cultures and religions I could only hope to one day see first
          hand. I am humbled by the emotion that fills my heart with
          overwhelming, overflowing Joy. I can’t even explain the insurgence of
          emotion I feel when I try to express the strength I draw from you all,
          it compounds my faith and it shows me yet again that this is not a case
          about the death penalty, this is not a case about Troy Davis, this is a
          case about Justice and the Human Spirit to see Justice prevail.

          I cannot answer all of your letters but I do read them all, I cannot
          see you all but I can imagine your faces, I cannot hear you speak but
          your letters take me to the far reaches of the world, I cannot touch you
          physically but I feel your warmth everyday I exist.

          So Thank you and remember I am in a place where execution can only
          destroy your physical form but because of my faith in God, my family and
          all of you I have been spiritually free for some time and no matter
          what happens in the days, weeks to come, this Movement to end the death
          penalty, to seek true justice, to expose a system that fails to protect
          the innocent must be accelerated.

          There are so many more Troy Davis’.

          This fight to end the death penalty is not won or lost through me but
          through our strength to move forward and save every innocent person in
          captivity around the globe. We need to dismantle this Unjust system city
          by city, state by state and country by country.

          I can’t wait to Stand with you, no matter if that is in physical or spiritual form, I will one day be announcing,

          “I AM TROY DAVIS, and I AM FREE!”

          Never Stop Fighting for Justice and We will Win!

          • thanks for posting this kay

            so powerful

          • Anonymous

            Wow…that the man could say these words will make his death even more tragic, if that’s possible. The Supremes need to do the right thing.

            Thank you for sharing this with us.  

    • Emmet

      It’s been almost all I’ve thought about all day.   As others have said, the sense of helplessness in the last moments of Troy’s life is horrible.  We have to abolish the death penalty.

      • Kay W

        Yes, me, too, Emmet.   One nightmare after another.

        Too many DA’s and politicos want to execute their “mistakes.”  I am sickened by this – as are we all.

        • Emmet

          You have to be a pretty sick puppy to wish death on another person because you screwed up.  I’ve never been able to see how you could do that without becoming psychotic — splitting your soul, like Voldemort.

          • Kay W

            Agree, Emmet.  “Splitting your soul, like Voldemort.”

            How many horcruxes? 

    • Yasuragi

      Amen, Kay.

  • Kay W

    DaNang, this is a powerful diary. 

    This struck me:

    ” there are more former soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen languishing
    in state and federal prisons than at any time previously. They are
    older than
    their prison fellows, and serving longer sentences, even for
    comparable crimes. The most significant difference between Viet Nam Era
    and Post-Cold War incarcerated veterans is their median age, 17 years,
    exactly the difference between their service eras.”

    Thank you for giving us this analysis of incarcerated veterans – and advocating for disabled incarcerated vets and their families.

    Much gratitude.

    • powerful and so sad

      we expect so much and return — well nothing